Or if you go the the OLF tool shed and type in downcut spiral router bits in the search box, you will find the same thing and price there and if will somehow help out the OLF....er I think
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| Author: | j.Brown [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:51 am ] |
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What type of router bit do I need to cut binding channels? -j. |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:00 am ] |
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A Rebate Bearing bit if you want to use the router without a guide. Or a guide and then some sort of bit, hears where opinion differs, I like to use a downcut spiral as I find it gives a really clean cut. Other people argue that a downcut is not the bit to use because of the chip clearance, for me though I really like the downcut spiral. |
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| Author: | Michael McBroom [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:00 am ] |
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I use a bit and bearing set I bought from Tracy, one of the advertizers here. Works well, and the bearings are in 0.010" increments. Best, Michael |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:34 am ] |
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I am in Russel's camp here, I get the best results with a 1/4" downcut spiral bit in a laminate trimmer and a binding jig. |
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| Author: | Colin S [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:37 am ] |
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Yep 1/4"downcut spiral bit and laminate trimmer with a bearing guide. Or of course gramil knife and a chisel! Colin |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:03 am ] |
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I'm with Michael on this. I also have the bearing bit set from Tracy. Problem is, I don't think Tracy is selling them any more. You could check with him though, he might have a couple of extra lying around. |
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| Author: | Shane Neifer [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:05 am ] |
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I am just finishing off my binding jig which is after the Larrivee style (sold by Guitar Jigs) I am using a 1.24 inch reverse rake angle rabbetting bit. I will post pictures when I finish it off (once the shop is closed up!) Shane |
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| Author: | bbeardb [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:31 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Colin S] Yep 1/4"downcut spiral bit and laminate trimmer with a bearing guide. Or of course gramil knife and a chisel! Colin[/QUOTE] Do you recommend the gramil that LMI sells, or other? |
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| Author: | j.Brown [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:24 am ] |
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I'm planning on building a Rod True/Taylor style jig with a dedicated router permanently mounted to it, so no need for the bearings, but I will look into the downcut bit. Thanks for all of your input! -j. |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:36 am ] |
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I use the LMI set and it is great. It is better than the SM set because there are so many more bearings available. The other advantage is the bearing is set lower, so you can route the binding first without having the problem of the bearing fallling into the binding channel when doing the purfling. With the Stewmac one, you must do the purfling 1st. |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:38 am ] |
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Here is a pict of the LMI set where the bearing is lower down!!!! CategoryName=Binding+Tools&NameProdHeader=Binding+Cutter% 2FBearing+Kit">LMI Bearings |
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| Author: | Colin S [ Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:33 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=bbeardb] [QUOTE=Colin S] Yep 1/4"downcut spiral bit and laminate trimmer with a bearing guide. Or of course gramil knife and a chisel! Colin[/QUOTE] Do you recommend the gramil that LMI sells, or other?[/QUOTE] The Schneider gramil that LMI sells it a very good tool, I have one and it works just fine. Normally I use one of the older style violin purfling cutters, the straight type with the wooden handle. I always use it prior to routing the channel as it prevents tearout especially on the top, sometimes I instead of using the router I just get out the chisels and use the low tech method of removing the wood. Colin |
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| Author: | SniderMike [ Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:08 am ] |
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[QUOTE=azimmer1] I use the LMI set and it is great. It is better than the SM set because there are so many more bearings available. The other advantage is the bearing is set lower, so you can route the binding first without having the problem of the bearing fallling into the binding channel when doing the purfling. With the Stewmac one, you must do the purfling 1st. [/QUOTE] I definitely agree with Andy here. It's really nice to have that extra space. It seems to make things a little more stable too. Mike |
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| Author: | ken walton [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:24 am ] |
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I'm on the side of the 1/4 inch downward spiral bit and laminate trimmer guys.... attached to a binding jig,gives a very clean accurate ledge |
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| Author: | j.Brown [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:55 pm ] |
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The Woodcraft flyer has the 1/4 inch down-spiral bits on sale for $25. Anyone else have those cheaper? Its probably not a box-store type item, I'm guessing. |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:06 pm ] |
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J, try woodworkers supply for freud carbide double and triple flute downcut bits. They are $15.99 plus shipping for the 1/4"dia x 1" cut length x 2-1/2" long x 1/4" shank. |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:10 pm ] |
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Or if you go the the OLF tool shed and type in downcut spiral router bits in the search box, you will find the same thing and price there and if will somehow help out the OLF....er I think
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| Author: | j.Brown [ Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:15 am ] |
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I'll check that right now. Thanks for the info! -j. |
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:01 am ] |
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25 bucks at woodcraft on sale ??? they are only 21 cdn at the borg up here, reg price. I find the freud ones dont stay sharp as long as Dimar's, or this other company up here in Totonto that makes them .. Ken Walton knows the name of the place, he gets them for me on his way over !!! They also have 1/8 and 3/16 on 1/4 shaft - handy. |
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| Author: | j.Brown [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:09 am ] |
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I was mistaken. It was actually $36, not $24. I left the store and ordered it online for about $14 with no shipping charge. Thanks for all your help. With any luck, I'll have a binding machine done next week. No guitar to bind,  but the machine'll be done.
-j. |
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| Author: | Wayne Clark [ Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:15 am ] |
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I've bought a couple of bits from American Carbide. Their prices are pretty good as well. |
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| Author: | Louis Freilicher [ Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:33 pm ] |
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Also check McMaster-Car. www.mcmaster.com. They have everything under the sun! Louis |
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| Author: | Martin Turner [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:16 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=Dave Rector] I'm with Michael on this. I also have the bearing bit set from Tracy. Problem is, I don't think Tracy is selling them any more. You could check with him though, he might have a couple of extra lying around.[/QUOTE] No longer in stock...I enquired about 4 months ago. |
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| Author: | ken walton [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:38 am ] |
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The place Tony is referring to is called F S Tool,they manufacture bits in house,they will make any size you want, if it is not a common bit size,we pay around 19 bucks Canadian,they will ship,very sharp and durable...haven't broke one yet.the web site is www.fstoolcorp.com hope that will be of some help. Ken Walton.... |
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